The Sickness of Islam: Virgins Must be Raped Before Execution


But, of course, you can’t have sex without being married, so you have to marry them, rape them, and then you can execute them. The girls – we’re talking about teenagers here – might resist though, so you might have to drug them too.

“He said he had been a highly regarded member of the force, and had so “impressed my superiors” that, at 18, “I was given the ‘honor’ to temporarily marry young girls before they were sentenced to death.”

In the Islamic Republic it is illegal to execute a young woman, regardless of her crime, if she is a virgin, he explained. Therefore a “wedding” ceremony is conducted the night before the execution: The young girl is forced to have sexual intercourse with a prison guard – essentially raped by her “husband.”

“I regret that, even though the marriages were legal,” he said.

Why the regret, if the marriages were “legal?”

“Because,” he went on, “I could tell that the girls were more afraid of their ‘wedding’ night than of the execution that awaited them in the morning. And they would always fight back, so we would have to put sleeping pills in their food. By morning the girls would have an empty expression; it seemed like they were ready or wanted to die.”

I will not be satisfied until Islam is utterly destroyed and removed from the face of the earth forever. It is an intrinsically evil religion.

Via Mark Steyn.

132 Responses to “The Sickness of Islam: Virgins Must be Raped Before Execution”

  1. Muhammad Alhadz Muradj Jakolero Says:

    What the fuck ? That is fucking insane and these fucking ISLAMIC REPUBLIC government does not condemns these acts ? These fucking Muslims must die and they should be buried alive. I really fucking hate ISLAM and all the people that rules the country. These fucked up religion is the worst religion on earth. If only Prophet Mohammed is alive today then I would definitely kill him so he will no longer spread ISLAM to the rest of the world…

    • edd browne Says:

      The World would be better off without Jakolero,
      whatever the crimes of Shia.

    • Scott Phillips Mango Says:

      Well it would be much better off without you prick little bastard.. ;)

      Oh well you know why the hell ISLAMIST groups are making a JIHAD all over the world ? Its because these BUSHES are creating BULLSHITS!

      First of all, who started the GULF WAR in the middle east ? Its BUSH SR right ? Now who’s going to finish it ? Of course, non other than BUSH JR. Now BUSH JR cannot think of anyways to start off the war againts IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN so they staged this 9/11 attack and brought down pentagon and the world trade center sacrificing the lives of thousands of people working in that bldg. Now who will be the next target ? IRAN or NK ? You bet! Good thing! The administration was already gone with the wind! Hopefully, OBAMA will not follow the path that BUSH had started… ;0

    • JAN Says:

      i WILL FUCK YOU

    • bingbing Says:

      Depends, JAN. Might be fun but probably won’t solve much.

    • Carpe Jugulum Says:

      JAN, i’m flattered………..no, really i am, but i don’t think of you that way……………………………it’s not because of your offensive body odour or overly hirsute skin, nor even the sweaty rolls of fat oozing a cheese like substance from the pores………………………i just don’t think of you that way.

      But thanks for the offer…………it’s appreciated

    • saim Says:

      i cant say any worst thing about your religion.
      but islam is the only true religion in world.
      and you can get proof of it in hell.
      only muslims can go in paradise.
      all of other will go to hell.
      its my promise.

  2. thefrollickingmole Says:

    Can you imagine the warped thinking that goes into a declaration like that.

    Thug A: “you cant kill her yet, shes innocent”
    Thug B: “but if shes innocent why are we killing her”?
    Thug A: “No I mean shes sexually inexoperienced”
    Thug B: “But isnt that a good thing according to our prophet”?
    Thug A: “Not if we are going to kill her for being guilty”…

    Fucking scum, that foul regime cant be overthrown fast enough.

    • edd browne Says:

      The crimes of some Shia are legendary, and may those
      goons be damned.

      Two wrongs don’t cancel, but recall the Catholic Inquisitions
      of a few centuries where innocents were tortured into confessions that caused execution, while the victims tried to save their souls by not falsely confessing. (Pope JPII issued a formal apology for the
      record, and to convince doubters.)

      In all history, when it comes to eternal fate, people fear not having
      afterlife insurance, and “I don’t know” is not insurance; just integrity.

  3. Isaac Surany Says:

    This religion called Islam that permits anyone who belongs to it to kill , Lie , and steal in the name of god . It is the best invention created by devil . Mohamad himself had sexual relationship with animals , like all Arabs .

    • Scott Phillips Mango Says:

      Exactly, Prophet Mohammed fucks those camels in the desert and drinks their water to survive.. Lol!

      I do believe that the majority of the islamic community will reject these misguided bastards but how can they reject if its their leaders who does it ?

      Then it all falls down to the same thing.. All of them will be the same. They even have a thinking that all muslims that will blast themselves for the sake of jihad will go to heaven and live with the virgins.. Lol!

      How can they live with the virgins if all the virgins are no longer virgins before they die.. Lol!

    • Joedy Says:

      Really?, Mohamad had sexual relationship with animals?, Where did u get this information? I’m not Muslim but honestly would like to know whether this fact is true or not.

    • chris Says:

      he was a pedaphile who touched up a little girl whilst on her period.. its in the koran. but the koran was interpreted to people who were too ignorant to read it themselves, so just got told what it contains..

    • Imal persaid Says:

      Integrity ! Insurance! Afterlife is not insured have u died and come back to tell us all about heaven. There’s no proof, unless of course your stupid enough to believe some people that thought the earth is flat.all religion is is a safety blanket for people to hold on to and an excuse to start fights. Everyone needs to grow up and start living in reality. JUST PUT THE BOOK DOWN AND STOP ACTING LIKE CHILDREN. I’m writing a book about ferries,looking for stupid people to believe it then I’m starting a new religion

  4. peter Says:

    but don’t judge the whole islamic community on the behaviour of these sick misguided bastards; I think the majority will reject also these criminal acts

    • bingbing Says:

      I tend to agree. And whilst one could argue Islam facilitates this behavior more so than most ideologies, one swallow does not make a summer.

      But let’s face it. It is Islam that facilitates this more than every ideology… apart from the Koreans, the North Koreans. And even the South Koreans are absolute cunts to deal with. Just ask any trade rep. Just ask anyone who lives here.

      Yet the North Koreans, well, they facilitate. They’re a hermit kingdom. Islam is not (that’s called understatement). And yet a symbiotic relationship exists. And it doesn’t take a majority. Only enough.

      Food for thought.

      No worries. Obama wants to sit down and talk. Yet he hasn’t done so. He hasn’t done anything.

      They have.

    • Joedy Says:

      I agree with you Peter. I have Muslim friends and they are very good people, very considerate people.

    • moehoweird Says:

      might as well judge them all the same they read the same gay book,they can criticize everything they dont like,they hate other muslims,christians and jews,women,the west, have you ever heard of the million towel head march against islamic terrorism,there can be no disputing the koran, there is a nut faction in every mosque and if there were moderate muslims out there you dont hear them for if they spoke out about it they’d be threatened with death…..so keep thinking dont paint all muslims with same brush…read their hadiths,koran and epecially mohameds toilet rules maybe then you’ll wise up…..obviously they have DUMBED DOWN ALREADY

  5. MegEgg Says:

    let’s just say that truly, Mohammed married a 6 YO girl, then bedded the girl when she was still a girl…. 9…. ewww… what is wrong with that religion, haven’t they got anything better to do than fuck up their females??? holy cow!!!

    all i can say… is… I’m glad I’m Christian….. BOO YAH!!

  6. MegEgg Says:

    in the Al Koran they also say, that most of the residents of hell are women… women are worse than the devil when it comes to revenge… etc… the sexist insults just keep coming…. chop their fucking dicks off… they don’t deserve them…ISLAM IS A CRIME!!!

    what i don’t get about islam, is that they always get their clerics to stick up for the al koran – ‘it’s out of context’ bla bla bla…. how is it out of context?? I’ve read passages from the Al Koran & I guarantee you, as a woman, it makes me SICK…… then they get their clerics to translate…. why are you translating?? the only being we should be getting the context from is God… is it not?? Angel Gabriel dictated the Al Koran to Muhammad, so why should i listen to a human interpreting Allah’s word…. fucking hypocrites… (hey that’s what Islam teaches…’ not CHRISTIANITY

  7. MegEgg Says:

    Moslims should stop getting clerics to ‘interpret’ their writings, cause clerics don’t have that right.. only their God Does, after all…. wasn’t the Al Koran dictated by Angel Gabriel on Allahs’ behalf…that’s what Islam teaches….

    So what is written, is apparently… Allah’s interpretation….
    forget the clerics… just read Allah’s word…. they’re gonna take over everything…

    • sam Says:

      “And that He may punish the Hypocrites, men and women, and the Polytheists men and women, who imagine an evil opinion of Allah. On them is a round of Evil: the Wrath of Allah is on them: He has cursed them and got Hell ready for them: and evil is it for a destination.” -Quran 48:06

  8. MegEgg Says:

    These people should get their dicks chopped off & stop breeding…why can’t we just broadcast this article to the whole world, make muslims sit down & read it… then see what they say, hey!!! Kevin Rudd, (Aussie Prime Minister) that’s a thought!!??

  9. Muhammad Alhadz Muradj Jakolero Says:

    I know that Islam is created to be a good and godfearing religion but what made it the worst and devilish religion are their leaders and the people that practices what their leaders taught them…

  10. Uzma Khan Says:

    Reading all this stuff, and looking at ur innocence, makes me smile….

    There is no such thing in Islam, and there is NO, NOT A SINGLE cruel act done to Muslim women when they come to Islam, I am its biggest witness.

    Whatever the author has reported (WITHOUT any refernce of place, country, law or Quranic verse) is just fabricated on some reason, it can be frustration, hatred or dislikeness towards the act or the Islam itself.

    I am here, and can answer ANY question you people might have as misunderstanding in your hearts.

    Listen, I dont know Non Muslim religions, I have some objections on your all rituals aswell, but I dont like to abuse them, because I Respect you peopl, everyone has got some Self Respect and affiliation toward the religion and stuff, lets give eachother some space for this. Peace is something that we all need and it can not come unless we open our hearts.

    Peace be Unto you all.

  11. Uzma Khan Says:

    why cant my reply get published….. Hmmmm

    • nilk Says:

      Because we have a bit of moderation in our comments, Uzma Khan.

      Unfortunately, we get loads of spam, and the occasional mentally disturbed stalker.

      Apologies for the delay in publishing.

      Welcome, by the way, and I’m sure some of us will have questions for you – my question revolves around sura and verse 4:34 and how can it not be cruel to tell women that men are better than them and so they should submit to their guardians or suffer the consequences?

  12. Uzma Khan Says:

    Peace Be unt0 You!

    I am Glad I have got an intelligent and very natural question that someone not knowing about our Religion might ask promptly. Secondly I am more gald that atleast you do have some idea about the Verse, and I appreciate .

    Okay So this is the verse you are asking about :

    “Men are (meant to be righteous and kind) guardians of women because God has favored some more than others and because they (i.e. men) spend out of their wealth. (In their turn) righteous women are (meant to be) devoted and to guard what God has (willed to be) guarded even though out of sight (of the husband). As for those (women) on whose part you fear ill-will and nasty conduct, admonish them (first), (next) leave them alone in beds (and last) beat or separate them (from you). But if they obey you, then seek nothing against them. Behold, God is most high and great. (4:34).

    This Verse is from the Surah (Chapter) that is named wholeley after Women, “for” Women indeed, what an honour to have a Whole Chapter in The Book from The Creator , Only for Them !

    The word that is being used in this verse for Men actually means Guardian, One who can stand firmly and make something stand with good and strength.

    Why they are termed as Guardian ?

    Reasons are :

    1. Allah has favored some more than the others.
    This is what actually alot of people object and I know what you might be thinking about this so called “Discrimination”. Before I tell you the reason , let me tell you that Muslims are all equal in the Eyes Of Allah, no matter what sex one belongs to, what country creed or colour, they are of no use to Muslim, A perfect example to it is our Yearly Ritual, The Hajj In Madinah, where you can see people from all around the globe, Black and White, Asian and African, Kids and Women , Men and all are equally, together. There is no one superior among them , except ONLY , read again i said ONLY on one criteria that we have is Taqwa (righteousness, God consciousness). No matter you are a lady , if you are having Taqwa in greaterdegree than men, then indeed you are superior over many of them. This is the very reason that The Wife of Pharaoh is Respectable to us for she was superior in Taqwa over her man, she is dear to all the Muslims, around the globe,{ inspite being Woman (for NonMuslim’s satisfaction i wrote that)}

    However Medically, Scientifically, and all the worldly reasons and facts we believe that Men are more strong in their Physical and mechanical aspect, They are more wide, giant and usually more able to bear trials easily. There is by no means any discrimination in this part. We do know that women are feeble in some degree and can not exactly do what men can, that is the very reason why the labourers are mostly men, cause they are strong.

    2.They spend out of their wealth:
    Here not only their characteristic is mentioned, on the same level Men are being “ordered” to spend their money ON women! Although women are equally allowed to earn and spend their money, but they are not asked for their money to be spent on men, however men are …. cant any men object on this? No, because its has been a duty for them to spend on their ladies and thats what they are made for.
    What a lovely duty they have got, from this part Men are responsible for women for three reasons: protecting the woman, looking after her economic needs and giving her love.

    You know for the same reasons Muslim women in majority dont have any need to go out and earn money after so many hardhips and then live, they always have their “Men” for them to earn and let them have “whatever they want….”

    Cool Haan?

    And you say, they are opperesd? Huh ?
    :)

    Lets go ahead….

    The only thing that is wanted from the Muslim woman is,

    “(In their turn) righteous women are (meant to be) devoted and to guard what God has (willed to be) guarded even though out of sight (of the husband).”

    Just have to protect her self, What a Rule…. You just get get get get and get and in turn you just have to protect your self… another GET huh? :)

    When the man is not around , the woman just has to be sincere and be devoted for all that she has given to her man.

    Thats her duty.

    Let me stop it here. you can still ask, and then i ll resume again.
    InshaALLAH.

    and oh I forgot , if you dont know, I am a lady myself !

    Peace Be unto You.

    • bingbing Says:

      Thanks.

      Now onto At-Tawba 5 aka The Verse of the Sword.

      Translated as,

      Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

      Or…

      But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

      Or…

      Do not wait until you find them. Rather, seek and besiege them in their areas and forts, gather intelligence about them in the various roads and fairways so that what is made wide looks ever smaller to them. This way, they will have no choice, but to die or embrace Islam.

      And could you put that into a context whereby 13,802 deadly attacks by Islamic terrorists have occurred since 9/11/2001, please?

  13. Uzma Khan Says:

    Peace Be Unto You.

    I will appreciate any questions or objections on my previous post aswell, Now another very Natural and wise question is at my Desk, And I am really glad that you all believe in rationality, seeking for Logics is very good and asking a question for something apparently wrong is very right, thats what I did and sought the Light.

    The Verse You have questioned for, goes like this;

    “And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.”

    This Verse is from the Surah (Chapter) named for Repentance , a way to return to the Right, a Manual how to be back on line, this is all what has been directed in this Chapter.

    Before I go to the explaination, let me tell you that This Holy Book was revealed to Muslim’s Prophet Muhammed S.A.W during the course of his life and this includes guidance for general life span and also it particularly include verses which were needed for the time being , just like directing Him how to handle some event or war etc.
    For this, This Book was revealed in small Verses, the chunks and so every verse has a Shaan-e-Nazool (historical background behind its revelation), so that every verse can only be understood well when the history is opened and applied only in that context.

    This verse was also revealed on a particular event, Ofcourse you might not know all the Arabic terms and stuuf so I will try to be as simple as I can be and also Brief in turning the pages of History. It was when The Muslim’s Prophet S.A.W was on His way to Makkah with an amount of followers (Muslim Companions) for the Umrah (a Ritual performed at Holy Place Kabah), He was stopped by the Non Muslim tribes there and He proposed them to have some treaty so that both parties can be at ease and acheieve their goals (shows He wanted Peace.. eh?).Therefore the both parties agreed on a treay that had many clauses and hence the situation was at peace then. However after sometimes, some Tribes didnt keep their words and fought with some people, for the verification the Muslim’s Prophet sent a verifier and told them that they have been breaking the promice, hoever those Tribes didnt listen rather challeneged him back. Later When the Muslims conquered Makkah, they had many Tribes and one part was those people who had broken their promice and made the treaty null and void. Therefore they were preached for Islam, and were called for peace FIRST, but when they denied, they were given the time span of 4 months to ammend if they wanted (meaning they REALLY WERE given time to correct only if they wanted) and then this verse was revealed. Lets first look at the previous parts so that I will make my point more clear because This is what usually people take as objection in the 5th verse and they completely forget in what flow the Surah is going as manual for Muslims:-

    Verse 1. This is declaration of disassociation from Allah and His Messenger to those idolaters with whom you had entered into a contract and they did not keep it. (Now there is a decleration that the treaty has been null & void. got the point ?)

    So this verse to Kill and Besiege those Polytheist is for “those Tribes” who actually killed many Muslims and challenged them for *WAR*.

    ***********Let me clear you with a very simple example : We know that America was once at war with Vietnam. Suppose the President of America or the General of the American Army told the American soldiers during the war: “Wherever you find the Vietnamese, kill them”. Today if I say that the American President said, “Wherever you find Vietnamese, kill them” without giving the context, I will make him sound like a butcher. But if I quote him in context, that he said it during a war, it will sound very logical, as he was trying to boost the morale of the American soldiers during the war.*********

    And WHat If you could read the remaiing part ‘ But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful ‘ Look Muslims are still taught for forgiving if they repent, doesnt it let the impression of Peace Loving religion?

    and If you have some time, read the next verse ; “If one amongst the pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure that is because they are men without knowledge.”

    Look at the beauty, they are still advised to Resue the opponents if they come to Muslims, The Qur’an not only says that a Mushriq seeking asylum during the battle should be granted refuge, but also that he should be escorted to a secure place. In the present international scenario, even a kind, peace-loving army General, during a battle, may let the enemy soldiers go free, if they want peace. But which army General will ever tell his soldiers, that if the enemy soldiers want peace during a battle, don’t just let them go free, but also escort them to a place of security?

    This is exactly what Allah (swt) says in the Glorious Qur’an to promote peace in the world.

    so This verse DOESN NOT include ALL NON MUSLIMS, NOT EVEN ANY OF THEM TODAY !!!

    ***** Now About your concern about MUSLIM TERRORIST or ATTACKs:

    There is NO (NOT AT ALL) any concept of attacks or killing of Non Muslims in ISLAM, Muslims are ORDERED for creating Peace among themselves in this world.

    Please Look at this Verse of Quran :

    “whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter (of the murderer) or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men” (5:32)

    Do you think Such people can kill thousands of innocents ??????

    There is NO Target Killing, Suicide Bombing and Killing of Innocent taught by Quran or Islam. This is all a propaganda by FAKE Muslims or Non Muslims who know nothing and are being spoon fed , and thats it.

    I , personally, have been living in Muslim Community Now, I talk to them , walk with them, drink, eat , sleep with them, and Believe me They do not favour such things, None of the Muslims , If He Believes in Allah and Quran, can kill anyone this way, Believe me Truth is not what you people are seeing by the Media, Just step ahead and see alil closer , see the authentic thing, verify, and you will see, what really ISlam is, what really True Muslims(TRUE Muslims are very rare these days ) are.

    I ll welcome any objection still. :)

    Peace Be unto You.

    • thefrollickingmole Says:

      Gday, I worked at Port hedland and Crtain airbase detention centres for a number of years and personaly saw the following.

      Religous instruction videos (I cant recall if it was Sunni or Shia), which included footage of stonings, hangings, amputations etc. The videos were mainstream in the mosque, how does this reconcile with your statement about the peacefulness of Islam?

      Whenever we had a more conservative cleric take over a mosque the ladies in the centre began to cover up more, how is this not a form of coersion?

      We had a group of Mandaleans at both centres. At curtain a blind man was beaten, covered with excrement and locked in a toilet (with the handle broken off), solely because of his religion. Mandaleans are a minority in Iran, why was it considered a ‘good” thing to assault and degrade him?

      A second madalean family was repeatedly beaten, ostracised, and their child hounded out of classes based on their religion. Given it was both Sunni and Shia who participated in this abuse, and the thugs used religion as a reason, how does this square with islam as being peaceful towards others?

    • Uzma Khan Says:

      :)

      Peace Be unto You.

      Let me ask you something, suppose McDonalds team and ownership gives a very impressive manual of guidance of cooking and presenting the meals to clients , with a very delicate way of conduct to be carried by the staff. They Teach it to the staff and every new coming member, the staff learns and they pay heed to it. However there comes a man who just goes through the training as a formality , paying no heed and taking it ‘for granted’, and when he joins, he misbehaves, shouts, doesnt give a tidy standard and conduct is non satisfactoy…… would you blame the Manual itslef or the man in person????

      Let me quote for you some thing I said in my last post;

      “”see the authentic thing, verify, and you will see, what really ISlam is, what really True Muslims(TRUE Muslims are very rare these days ) are.””

      True Muslims are those who follow the Islam in its pure form, which says:

      “whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter (of the murderer) or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men” (5:32).

      Muslims are NOT taught to do violance with innocents and suppress others. There is no such teachings at all, I siad and I am saying again, If you want to ask ANYTHING regarding Islam, I am here. Those who are fake Muslims, they know nothing about Islam in truth and truelly doing everything on their own ‘Free Will’ .

      U talked about coersion, Let me quote something that is very valuable and define this religion:

      “Let there be no compulsion in religion” (2:256)

      “Say, ‘The truth is from your Lord’: Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it)” (18:29)

      There is nothing that is applied in Islam ‘By Force’.

      Your concern is very right and I respect it , I stand with YOU for condemning all such acts which have nothing to do with Islam and its Rules because Islam and Allah d0nt preach for violance, cruelty or injustice.

      I am glad atleast You do have concerns, and that is the Humanity we all need.

      Peace be unto You.

    • thefrollickingmole Says:

      I am quite happy to take you as you say you are, however another stroy from Port Hedland might give you an idea why I am extremely skeptical of the motives of some of your co-religonists.

      We had a boatload of indonesians turn up from Arche (not sure of the spelling) or Sullewesi. At that time Australia was involved in the East Timor dispute so it was kept extremely quiet so as not to infame that problem.

      These people were Christians fleeing attacks by their Muslim neighbours. They had included assault, rape, murder, arson and other attacks.

      These people were quietly granted asylum, but the horror inflicted on them in the name of Allah was quietly condoned by the regional authorities. Its difficult to call it an abberation when the regional authorities condone religously motivated attacks.

      The post bellow is from another site, the images at the bottom are quite distressing, but it describes exactly the type of attacks these people endured from their neighbours,
      (The bottom picture looks like a fake to me though, possible photoshop)

      http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2006/11/islamic_jihad_i.html

  14. nilk Says:

    Uzma Khan, you have quoted 2.256, but not the complete verse.

    002.256
    YUSUFALI: Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.
    PICKTHAL: There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error. And he who rejecteth false deities and believeth in Allah hath grasped a firm handhold which will never break. Allah is Hearer, Knower.
    SHAKIR: There is no compulsion in religion; truly the right way has become clearly distinct from error; therefore, whoever disbelieves in the Shaitan and believes in Allah he indeed has laid hold on the firmest handle, which shall not break off, and Allah is Hearing, Knowing.

    Indeed, there is no compulsion in religion when the only religion is the worship of allah.

    This is disingenuous, particularly when it is well-known that the penalty for apostasy, for example, is death:

    I also have a copy of the ‘Umdat al-Salik, also known as the Reliance of the Traveller, and it states that there is no punishment for a muslim who kills an apostate (o1.2), nor does a muslim have to make expiation to allah for committing such a murder(o5.4).

    If a muslim is too frightened to even consider the possibility that there might be another truth out there, then does that not seem coercive?

    • Uzma Khan Says:

      Peace Be Unto You.

      I am feeling delighted at all these well informed replies, Great to know that people are bothered about all the hyphe.

      Dear , I have quoted half of the verse for my point as i was going in flow, these verses are one of the very special verses being used in the Preaching classes of Muslims to let them know that there is NO complusion of forcing someone to enter into Religion and there is NO compulsion to let them walk on this Path , AND there is NO compulsion to force any Muslim to follow something or anything…..
      It was just one of the many signs I just had to drag here to make it worth.

      Anyways, now what you are saying that Muslims are frightened to even look for the other option….?? :) I really mean it, Muslims who believe in truth do not really have to look for other options. Why the execution the ultimate penalty for Muslims who turn back is becuase it is a very unusual act that can be done by a True Muslim (read True again). Somethings are not explained in words rather are experienced alone, Like I did, I can not tell you in words what it really is, the worth the value, U can not tell what Love is, u can only Feel it, Similarly A True Muslim can not tell you what Hidayah (Guidance) is , its only felt, and this is the point, I wish someone from your part could have experienced it. It is worth than my million lives, i spent without Islam.

      About your question of fear, Muslims dont fear this option thingy, They are already being warned about this, here :

      “You shall certainly be tried and tested in your possessions and persons and you shall certainly hear from the people given the book before you and those who associate partners with God much grieving talk. But if you are steadfast and disciplined, then that is of the (required) resolve in affairs.” (3:186)

      Believe me, you peopel sound just like me, I had always been sarcastic and a big critic myself, till I really found the Truth myself.

      Peace Be Unto You.

  15. Kaboom Says:

    Uzma Khan, it is always refreshing to enter into discourse with a polite and reasonable person of a differing viewpoint.

    One of the issues in relating to Islam in Australia (and I think, most of the Free World) has to do with the Burkha, the full-body covering of females.

    In circumstances somewhat similar to those in Malmo (Sweden), infidel females in Australia are “open season” for rape and torture by Mohammedan males, and as has been expressed by the former Grand Mufti, Sheik Hilali, the females concerned “deserve it” because they are walking around “like uncovered meat”.

    The Wahabbist wing of Islam has decreed that females are required to wear the Bhurka, because males (presumably only the Mohammedan ones) are incapable of restraining their base sexual demands when seeing an uncovered ankle or something.

    Every Bhurka wearing female contends that it is a freedom frock (freedom to grow a moustache and put on weight, I guess!), but it is sadly a confrontational message to the majority in western nations.

    The message appears to be this: “We dress in this sack, because our men cannot restrain themselves from going apeshit and rooting every female in sight, and this is the only way to stop them.”

    OK, fair enough. But, does this not condone rape and the belittlement of women? Does this not mean that every one who dons a Bhurka is saying “Wearing this means that I will not be raped, Inshillah!”

    Is this not women blindly capitulating to the excesses of the male hierarchy, and tacitly accepting and endorsing those excesses?

    In other words, is not the Bhurka a symbol of the acceptance of rape?

    Has Islam any cognisance of almost equal rights for the lesser of the species, or does it ordinarily treat them as chattels?

    Finally, again on the subject of women, why 40 lashes for wearing trousers? I’d give them 400, but it’s not up to me….

    • Uzma Khan Says:

      Peace Be Unto You.

      Ah My Favourite… :)
      Although your question doesnt make a central point to me, yet whatever i can perceive I am gonna talk on it.

      Before I jump onto the ACTUAL part, lemme tell you there is NO ’40 lashes on Trousers’ stuff…. who told you this thing ? It makes me laugh… I wear trousers !

      I have completely understood your point . There is no concept of RAPE at all and there is nothing that Islam favours even if the lady is nude, or non Muslim, they are respectable and must be respected.

      “And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be modest, and to display of their adornment only that which is apparent, and to draw their veils over their bosoms, and not to reveal their adornment. And turn unto God together, O believers, in order that ye may succeed.” (24: 31)

      “That will be better, so that (Muslim woman) may be recognized and not annoyed. God is ever Forgiving, Merciful.” (Qur’an, Al-Ahzab-33: 59)

      These are ADIVISES from Allah in Quraan to the Muslim women, there is no compulsion. However the Women who turn to Islam opt for it on their own, they keep it as a pride for them selves as it has been suggested by their Allah. There is no force by the Muslim men, and if there is , it is no truth.
      Let me just quote an example to you :-

      Saba M. Baig, 21, is a recent graduate of Rutgers University, New Brunswick, New Jersey. She was 17 when she seriously started wearing hijab, and feels she is still in the process of learning internal hijab. “My biggest realization was that hijaab was not just about wearing a scarf on my head, but more of a (veil) on my heart,” said Baig. “Hijaab is more than an external covering. That’s the easy part of it all. It has a lot (more) to do with modesty and just the way you present yourself.”

      There is no force, believe me i am in Muslim community, and I havent started Hijaab and nobody points a single thing on me.

      As for the people (young men ) you have talked about, let me tell you what Quraan tells the men for that :

      “Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and be modest. That is purer for them. Lo! Allah is Aware of what they do.” (24:30).

      Let yourself know that men are equally asked to lower their gaze , not to look at anything that may evoke them , irrespective of being Muslim women or NonMuslim semi nude lady…. its not the matter.

      Welc0me for more.

      Peace be Unto You.

  16. Kaboom Says:

    I’m sorry – your obfuscation and shifting of the goal-posts is worthy of a greenie propagandist. I have a built-in Taqquia detector, which is currently off the scale.

    It is therefore impossible to have any semblance of a sensible discussion with one such as yourself.

    Here is a hint: no-one wants to know what the Quran says your men must do – actions speak much louder than words, and every female Mohammedan seems to be in deep denial of what their menfolk get up to.

    Please identify the verses of the Quaran, the hadiths or oterwise, that requires the donning of the Bhurka.

    • Uzma Khan Says:

      Peace Be Unto You .

      I have no problem with your comments, I have no propaganda in myself, rather I believe what I am walking on, and Thats my Passion. I follow everything with AUTHENTIC verification of things, no matter what you people sya, its your account.

      Now I am not here for my thing, I am here for any questions, what is it Dear ? What do want to know ? You want Hadiths for Burqha??

      GIve me a clear cut question, I have no problem in responding.

      Peace Be Unto You.

  17. Carpe Jugulum Says:

    Good evening Uzma Kahn,

    Normally i would not participate in debates theological, but having worked my way through the posts from yourself & nilk, mainly, but also the experiences & opinions from bingers, Kaboom & the mole.

    Please Uzma, how does one reconcile the graphic violence (as is freely available online) perpetrated by your religion of choice, juxtaposed to your puported mantra of peace.

    If this is against the accepted belief, why, why FFS, is this not decried from the highest roof top,why is there not a spokekesperson on the evening news denouncing these murderers. Why Uzma??

    You have embraced your faith, & that is fine i respect that, but, perversions of the faith that condone violence in its many forms cannot be accepted or condoned.

    Don’t address your obvious devotions, that is a fait accompli, look to how your faith has been misconstrued & has embraced a culture of death, perverted to suit the doctrine of the radicals.

    Thats my rant

    • Carpe Jugulum Says:

      Oh yeah, Have a nice weekend troops.

    • sam Says:

      There is a clear reason why Uzma Khan’s peaceful religion contradict the actions of Muslim fighters accross the world.

      Let me begin by correcting Uzma Khan’s interpretation of the Qur’an. Whenever Uzma Khan or anyone interprets the Qur’an using parenthases like (*****), it is an indication of added words that are not actually in the original Arabic version. So whenever he says, “men (righteous and kind) remember that the righteous and kind part doesn’t exist in the original arabic version. For example, other english translations state that “man can beat (lightly) his wife,” as you can see in ther version quoted by Uzma Khan the lightly part is not included, yet it is commonly used in many English translations.

      I suggest that you find a version of the Qur’an that is in Arabic, then ask someone who can read Arabic to interpret for you, or find sources you trust. For example, I am confident with the quotes of the Qur’an as they appear on the http://www.apostatesofislam.com. I also have a Arabic/Persian Qur’an that my father interprets for me.

      The other quoted verses from the Qur’an that promote violence are not as a result of attack. History and most of the Hadiths document the fact that Mohammad was the aggressor. Before Mohammad became powerful, his strange religious rants were rejected, and because of his insistance, he was expelled from Mecca to Medina. His anger led him to attack the most prominent leaders in Medina, murdering them and taking their property and wealth. From there, Mohammad perfected his strategy (promising virgins and other heavenly wealth to fighters), accusing tribes of violating various laws and agreements, asking them to either pay tribute or fight.

      Mohammad continued to fight and conquer expanding his empire during his life, and his disciples continued to expand the Islamic empire to Iran and Africa after his death.

      Today, Muslim scholars who have frequent contact or live in the West, argue that his promotion of violence was a reaction to war. But who would attack a tribe in Arabia. They were not rich and they had nothing anyone would want.

      The REAL reason why Uzma Khan and others claim that there is a problem of context, is that it is embarrassing and illogical for a peaceful religion to be promoting violence in its Holy book. Yet not only is the Qur’an full of verses promoting violence and murder, sixty percent is dedicated to Jihad. No doubt, Uzma Khan will call Jihad the inner battle to accept Allah. Yeah Right!

      Assuming that Western educator have no knowledge of Middle Eastern history, they make these attempts to cover up Islam’s inherent violence. For example, I always ask if people know why from Iraq to the western tip of North Africa, the main language is Arabic? When Muslims conquerd those lands, they made it illegal to speak one’s native tongue. A great civilization that lost its language was Egypt. The only groups that retained their native tongue were powerful fighters. The Turks maintained their language mainly because they adopted Islam early and maintained a powerful Islamic state allied with the Arabian peninsula, the Ottoman Turks. The Persians however, fought to retain their native language, Persian (Farsi). Persians revere the leader of those battles Bobak, and many Persian continue to name their children Bobak, to remember their struggle to maintain their culture.

      Back to the discussion of Qur’an’s violent verses. The funny thing is, in Saudi Arabia, Iran, and other muslim countries, they do not fear or feal ashamed at these misogynystic and violent verses, they instead incorporate them into their civil laws, that is why we still see stonings and other barbaric acts. The Qur’an empowers men over women, not as guardiens but as owners. For example, in Egypt and Saudi Arabia, if a man finds his wife is committing adultery and catches her in the act, he can kill her on the spot and receive only a misdemeanor. If he leaves then comes back to kill her, he receives a harsher punishment. Yet this does not apply to the woman. If a woman finds her husband cheating on her, he could be sleeping with his second wife, therefore, she cannot kill him on the spot because there is no way for her to know if it is sanctioned. The list of barbaric laws go on and on. Islam uses the veil of religious freedom to maintain its control over women and children and avoid criticism.

      Uzma Khan may claim misinterpretation or context, that is his opinion. It is just as valid as the opinions of Al Qaida or the Taliban. In fact, the interpretation of Al Qaida is likely the most honest interpretation. That is the danger of Islam.

      Why would a religion that is so peaceful, be full of verses that can be so easily misinterpreted? Why would Allah allow for any misinterpretation of his laws? The truth is that Islam is no closer to god than the earth is to the sun.

      I would love to continue and discuss how Islamic fundamentalism was used to fight Communism in the seventies and eighties. But i’m sure that you can understand for yourselves, that the US used Islamic fundamentalists to repel Communism and other political groups opposed to the US, until they realized that Islamic fundamentalism was out of control. Khomeini, contrary to common knowledge, was supported by the West just as the Taliban was. They all became uncontrolable to a great extent.

      Best,
      Sam, Former Muslim

    • have an opinion Says:

      Sam

      Thank you a well presented argument.

  18. bingbing Says:

    Uzma. Are you aware that a separation of Church and State is a core principle of Western democracies?

    And are you willing to accept that Sharia Law is not an option in Western democracies, of which Australia is one?

    So long as you can accept that, and indeed cherish that ideal, you will always be welcome.

  19. Ongam Spillihp Ttocs Says:

    Hey Uzma Khan, I’ve got one question. Why the hell Saudi Arabia which is a very conservative muslim country still pratices beheading and doesn’t even let a media or let their accused get a lawyer for themselves ?

  20. Ongam Spillihp Ttocs Says:

    And if they really go with the way of the Quran, then they should change the way they execute the convicts… Maybe a lesser and not harsh penalty will take place.

  21. Angus Dei Says:

    God made man for life; Islam preaches death. God made man to love; Islam preaches hate. “Allah” is not a revealed name of The Living God, but is, rather, the name of a pre-Islamic moon deity. Even Mohammed’s father’s name had a variant of “allah” in it.

    Any name not God’s that is worshiped is simply a mask for Satan to hide behind. Islam is Satan worship and is evil in its entirety.

    To understand the roots of Islam, you have to understand that Mohammed was, and modern Arabs are, Ishmaelites. Ishmael was the son of Abraham and Shrah’s maid Hagar, a slave. Ishmael was born because of Abraham’s and Sarah’s lack of faith in God’s promise to them. Hagar and Ishmael were driven out and excluded from God’s promise, which was rightfully Isaac’s.

    God had mercy on Hagar and Ishmael and saved them, but with the curse that Ishmael’s descendants would always be at odds with Isaac’s descendants.

    What Islam is, then, is simply the continuation of this struggle, and an attempt by Ishmael’s descendants to claim for themselves the promise of God given to Isaac and his son Jacob, who is Israel. It won’t work.

    The only hope any non-Jew has of being grafted onto the branch of God’s promise is through faith in Jesus, the Christened Son of the Living God. Without that faith, all non-Jews are lost. Period.

    The only chance you or any other Muslim has, Uzma, is to renounce Islam and accept The Christ. It’s the same for all of us who are not Jewish: We accept Christ or perish forever.

    You have been given free will by God, so the choice is yours.

  22. Francis Bautista Says:

    One question, why are Muslims have almost all the same identical names like Mohammed, Ahmed and it seems that they’re always repeating their names…

    • Col. Milquetoast Says:

      Muslims have almost all the same identical names like Mohammed, Ahmed and it seems that they’re always repeating their names

      Mohammed and Ahmed are not the “same identical” names – note that one starts with “m” and the other doesn’t.

      There is a repeating of names. Arabic names, so I’ve been told, follow the format of a surname, then the father’s given name and sometimes a list of other ancestor’s given names and then the individual’s given name. Also, Arabic superstition has it that naming a kid Mohammed is good luck.

      We’ve noticed you have a peculiar interest in names.

    • Francis Bautista Says:

      Sire, I did not say that Mohammed and Ahmed are two identical or the same names.. I said why are muslims have almost all the same identical names LIKE … Mohammed and Ahmed

      got it ? I’m citing those two as an example.. :)

  23. Sally Says:

    This would have to be the most bigotted and hateful article I’ve come across. What’s its authenticity? Who are you people to be printing this hatemongering.?

    • thefrollickingmole Says:

      The one Angus liks to is from the Jerusalem Post, heres a few more if you happen to distrust that organ.

      http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2009/August/Irans-Police-Chief-Acknowledges-Prisoner-Abuse-/

      This next one is one of the countries leaders calling for protesters to be executed.

      http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6583797.ece

      And another

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8192660.stm

      A youtube of a claimed witness.

      Please perform a simple googe search, Ive deliberately selected a variety of sources, hope that helps.

    • Angus Dei Says:

      The truth is only bigoted and/or hateful if you’re a leftard.

    • Mahatma Ghandi Says:

      You don’t say its bigotted and hateful article coz you know yourself that the most hateful religion and the most astrocious form of worshiping is Islam and you know it yourself that you always like Christians and how you wish you were born a Christian instead.. =)

  24. Mahatma Ghandi Says:

    Ah country leader calling for protesters to be executed ? What the fuck! That country leader should be the one who will be executed.. Damn! That is insane and very disgusting. And as for you Sally, I know you’re a muslim so please stop being a hypocrite cause you.. yourself don’t even like your own religion and wished that you were born a Christian. =)

  25. Absar Says:

    Francis Bautista,
    Who told you Muslims have the “same identical names”…?!?
    there are a whoel lot of muslims who dont have these names…me or my family dont have thess names.

    second reason is Mohammed and Ahmad are the names that are in several other languages/countries besides Arabic….thats why you find a lot of people with these names….so naturally if a name exists in several languages/countries.. ..chances increases of people having that name…Sarah is a name that exists in American’s but it is also being used by Muslims…Asians…Arabs…so you would find more people with this name.

    Also its just like Americans having names like John,Michael or Smith…as these 3 are the most common male names in America…now if I ask you why a lot of Americans have these names..?!?

    hope it helps

  26. Francis Bautista Says:

    No sir, really muslims use redundant names like Mohammed Mohammed or Allahu Akbar. I know someone from the US who happened to be a muslim and he baptize this christian to be a muslim and he uses the name of the President of Pakistan Asif Ali Zardari and with this other person’s name I have already forgotten.. :)

  27. bingbing Says:

    Are you trying to say you’re not Muslim?

    Then what’s your caper?

    You sound deranged.

  28. bingbing Says:

    Ali, Mahatma, Ashmirandi, Absar… could you please just post using one name.

    Your point of view would carry more more weight if you weren’t trying to deceive everyone and if you didn’t come across as so utterly mad and stupid while doing so.

  29. bingbing Says:

    PS Ironic that you write your deceit on a post called “The Sickness of Islam”.

    Thanks for proving a point.

  30. Carpe Jugulum Says:

    ISP address tells all retard.

  31. bingbing Says:

    It might be best then, when you change your handle coming from the exact same IP address, you also change your writing style. Just a hint. Oh yeah, and don’t post using multiple handles all within minutes of each other.

  32. Absar Akbar Housein Osamma Says:

    Allah in Arabic means Satin.

    OK.

    Now it all makes sense!

    • bingbing Says:

      The poor man’s silk…

  33. someone Says:

    all this is a lie
    anything bad at saudi arabia because they don’t believe in god and the messenger
    the take isalm specificly “sina” as a cover for them
    you can communicate with me and i’ll give you the real face of isalm

    peace

  34. someone Says:

    guys one more thing muslims should marriage to be able to have sex isn’t that better than having an illegal child ??!
    you can read holly quran just like i red the bible
    now i like to see your reply ??

    • Arse Bandit Says:

      Hey did Mohammed really had sex with a camel and did he use to fvck cats as well ? Hehehe.. Just curious.. Cause I know someone who loves cats as well as doing the cat when nobody is around.. I think that was Carpe.. :D

  35. thefrollickingmole Says:

    someone

    I agree it would be better to have children born in wedlock. Most conservatives think this is a good option. However we also realise that people are extremely imperfect beings. Im not a religous man myself, however I think the state has no place in enforcing religion.

    For example, the state punished homosexuality in Australia for generations, there was no great burden on society as a whole caused by this “deviation” from normal behaviour. Indeed it could be argued that a great many men and women were damaged by the gay partners efforts to be normal. Sham relationships, fustration, suicide, and all for the sake of the state enforcing religous norms.

    Now we are at the beginning of state normalisation of homosexuality, in my opinion some aspects are going a little to far, however my opinion falls into the private sphere. As long as my property or self am not harmed, and society continues to function (and sections are improved by the new freedom of a section of the population, similar to the unleashing of womens potential in the 60-70s) I have no right to expect the government to legislate to make me “comfortable”.

    I still have the right to attend a church or anti-gay organisation, but that falls into my own personal sphere. Im my group or church acts to attack or endanger gays as a group Id expect the government to act against my group, it has crossed from private morality, which is the core of every person, to inflicting pain and violence to change the ideas of others. Unnaceptable.

    Islam is a political religion, there are some countries which are attempting to blend secularism and Islam (Indonesia, Iraq), but they are under constant pressure to crack down on individuals moral failings. The original articles linked to stipulates it was the deliberate branding of protesters as enemies of the state AND Islam which allowed the “moral” jailers to commit the rapes and abuse of the prisoners.

    The state has no place in enforcing religous laws, it took Christianity centuries to discover this, that led to a blossoming of the mind and wealth far beyond the dreams of Roman or Ottoman Kings.

    There is absolutely nothing illegal in you having the opinion that women who have children out of wedlock are “sluts”, or that homosexuality is moraly wrong. You can go to your Mosque and join with like minded people and condemn these moral failings, and encourage others not to do the same. You can even stage protests and write angry letters to the papers, get up and leavea place if 2 men kiss near you, or refuse to visit a beach or pool with nude/near nude patrons.

    All this you are free to do.
    But you dont have the right to force your private morality on others.
    Equally others shouldnt have the right (and this is where IMHO gay rights have gone too far) to use the law against your personal beliefs.

    • someone Says:

      actually i have no idea about goverment but we follow our religion even christans in iraq are the same the have children after marriage it’s something from out inside !!

      about the islam … look islam is not something quite different muslims are just like you and i can say it’s about 90 % of your habits but about “gay” since about a year this situation started to show and 100 % of people were not satisfy so the goverment punish them that’s our habits man = man & woman = woman & man=womar

      to see the real face of islam is very lovely and it’s just like your religion we pry for god so you are

      but i don’t blame you to have this bad idea because of some people who has deformed the real face of islam

      and we have something important in our life
      religion for god
      and country for all
      we don’t mix between religion & politics

      - i’m sorry for any typing mistake
      - i’m sorry for any expression aybe idin’t write it clearly
      - any question you want to ask about islam i’ll help you and you can chat with me by yahoo messenger if you like

      Regards

    • bingbing Says:

      Thanks for taking the time to post here, someone. Now sure, this is perhaps a bit picky, but do you have any thoughts on the specifics of the post itself?

      After all, it details how virgin prisoners are married against their will, raped, and then executed. And whilst your comments thus far are appreciated, the post isn’t titled, “Let’s talk about random aspects of Islam.”

  36. someone Says:

    bingbing

    about the post this thing i’ve never heard about it’s either a lie of in saudi arabia only

    have you heard about the iraqi people who has been execute by cutting head by sword that thing is never exist in islam
    islam has been Derails by saudi arabia

    regards

    • bingbing Says:

      I’ll accept that argument for now.

      The question then is, why would the Saudis do that?

    • bingbing Says:

      PS Thanks for speaking out. With an average of four to five deadly Islamic terrorist attacks every single day, the world needs more people like you doing what you are doing.

    • thefrollickingmole Says:

      Please read this story, it encapsulates why Islam IS politics in most countries it rules.

      http://www.compassdirect.org/english/country/pakistan/16071/

      “In Kasur, Ruqqiya Bibi and her husband Munir Masih were sentenced on March 3 to 25 years of prison under Section 295-B of the Pakistan Penal Code for defiling the Quran. They had been arrested by Mustafabad police in December 2008 for touching Islam’s sacred scripture without ritually washing.”

      See thats the state enforcing Islamic rules, Id also like to see a defence of the tax levied on non-believers, after all that is mandated in the Koran as part of Mohammeds writings.

      Islam is a political religon. It is also a survailance society where may people watch each other for “backsliding”.

  37. someone Says:

    bingbing

    my friend there is a big mistake the terroist is not ISLAM
    they take ISLAM just a COVER … Islams hate terroist and it’s agianst the terroist

    and thank you for taking time to read my comments

    regards

    • Carpe Jugulum Says:

      I eagerly await the decrieing of terrorist acts by followers of islam……………..*crickets*……………….. face it someone, islam is a death cult and no form of posturing or qoutes from the koran or associated documents change that fact.

      Islamists delight in subjugating women, reducing them to less than chattels, and don’t get me started on the whole goat buggering – sheep shagging thing, just look to the ayatollah khomeni’s (sic), take on that in his blue book.

      As an interesting aside, why is it that (islamic) pashtun males have a high incidence of anal gonhorroea and why do islamic men in Afghanistan delight in boy dancers that they have sex with????……..just asking is all????? (it was a special on SBS about the peado freaks).

      To summarise, your religion is a death cult, it subjugates women, it lies and is promoted by liars, it condones child marriage & rape, it condones paedophilia, it condones beastiality and your so called prophet was little more than a nomadic goat herding child molester with a messiah complex.

      Come and fatwa me bitch…………..i’ll have you on toast.

      I think that covers it.

  38. someone Says:

    I Think i’m not talking to you !

    maybe you’re not more than ad idiot
    at the end your ideas are wrong
    don’t hear …. look for the answer !
    I Guess there is no hope to solve this problem
    at the end i tell you one thing in islam
    we don’t say that jewish or christans are on the wrong way !
    [ that what our quraan tell us !]
    now don’t say something bad about islam or quraan and you have no idea

    tomorrow i’ll complete my comment

    but one thing what you’re saying is wrong and tomorrow i’ll tell you why

    and i’ll tell you what you’re saying about us and your goverments and i’ll talk about denemark

    tomorrow i’ll try for the last time to solve this problem

    brb

  39. someone Says:

    all the bad people you’re talking about are made by AMERICA you want me to say too much !

    you want me to tell you what america did to iraq !
    america allowed people to steal the national museum
    infront of her eyes ,
    america used special weapons to damage the genes made children Garbled
    america stole oil from iraq
    america allowed people to stole the beds of hospitals and leave the sick people with no beds and treatment !

    what else … america pay for that ….

    america help israel to hurt arab and use this kind of weapons

    by the way when i say israel i mean the army not the jewishes cause our quraan tell us to resped christans and jewishes and any other !

    ———

    quraan contain everything in this world …. every invention is exist in it

    but be careful when you insult quraan cause it’s a book by god !

    ———

    you want me to t america did by “Kemrtal or chemrtal” gas
    that gas that made the cyclons in haiti !!!
    it wasn’t a weathe phenomeon !

    ———

    and about pakestan and other didn’t us army made that chance for bad people to talk about that bullshits !!

    don’t defend for the us army !!

    RESPECT FOR ALL

    • Carpe Jugulum Says:

      I don’t know why i bother with this deluded drivel.

      Dude you need to either stop blogging when you’re pissed, or ease up on the crack pipe, seriously you are a mouthbreathing, drooling, sheep shagging cretin.

  40. someone Says:

    I’m Sorry if i was angry
    but what you’re saying is not true

    this will be my last comment because i can’t continue with you i’ve no time

    but to know that kind of bad thing you posted is real exist but it’s not exist in quraan

    do you know that messenger said to every prisoner of war to teach 10 of uneducated people and he’ll send him free
    we believe in mercy …. those prisoners killed muslims but he didn’t kill them !

    islam contain many good thing but what you see is the opposite , just like bible

    and what happend because of people who sold their selves and their religion for money and to have the Authority

    Something wrong happend made those bad people take chance to do that kind of stuff …

    by the way i’m from iraq and i can’t tell you what america did to iraq … america did some good stuff …. but the was bad stuff which i alredy posted and many other

    i know you’ll speak about iran ….. iran have nuclear weapons and the world is very worried

    but why don’t you worry from israeel , america , china …. !

    i think i told you every thing you need to know that what you see is real but not exist in religion and I’m against that kind of ugly pictures

    Regards , And Sorry If I Hurt Any one But I Was little angry

  41. someone Says:

    i mean bible is good like quraan

  42. I am sad Says:

    I am a Muslim and I am very sad that you guys get this idea about us.What is mentioned in this articel is not what Islam recommends and there is absolutly nothing in Quran,hadeth or anything in Islam that says a girl can’t die as a virgin.what happens in Saudi Arabia is a special case that doesn’t represent Islam or the core of Muslims.many Muslims(and I mean many) don’t like Saudi Arabia and their extreme measurments in applying Islame rules and the way they treat women.don’t generalize guys please and think that all Arabs are like said Arabia,if you visited any other country like Egypt,you will now how well we treat our women and how well we treat christians and we treat them as our brothers and never ever tell them’you are doomed because you are not mulim’.we treat foreigners e extremly well and we don’t hate Christians or we are against christianty.if anyone of you have Muslim Arab friends in England or America,you will now how good we are and how we have some great qualities.One of my dear friends lived with his family in Scotland for many years and made very good Christians friends and never had problems in blending with them and they become just like brothers and sisters.yes Islam prohibts us from drinking wine and beer because it alters the state of brain and make you unconcious,and yes sex without marriage is an extremly forbidned thing in Islam and it is considered a major sin but do we ever tell chrisians they will go to hell because of that?you have their religion and you are the only one that take full responsibilty for your actions,so who are we to tell you what to do?also terrorism is forbidneed in Islam and what happened in 9/11 is considered terrorism and a sin by whoever did it,but please don’t generalize and think this is the Essenes of Islam,it has nothing to do with it or with Muslims.we as Arabs don’t hate westerns or Americans,in fact we respect them for many things(excluding sex and drinking) and we absolutly have no hatred towards them,we hate American poliics and Jewish.we think Obama did nothing and he is no better than bush.do you think what happens to palistenians is fair?do you think that what you see on the newspapers and how many innocent children and women are killed because of the unfairness of Jewish is fair?do you think that a 9 year old boy,his mom should die on his chest in the street and all what she thinks about is how he will survive in this brutal world? Do you think what Americans do in Iraq is fair and all the rapping that happened in Abo Gharib prison is fair?American soldiers rapped Muslim women and humilated them to death and yet we Arabs and Muslims never doom Chritians or attack your religion because we know that doesn represent Americans,why don’t you do the same for us?why can’t you imagine that our hearts get torned apart when we read in the newspaper that a woman got rapped?we are just like you and maybe more sensitive when it comes to rape or women humiliation and we respect every women Arab or western.All what I am asking for is please don’t mix what you read in this article with all Muslims and how we treat our women.if you opened the Internet,how many American sex sites you see with extreme images for women humilation and yet you never see Arabic sites representing women in that disrespectfull way as a sex slave.it is hard for us to watch these sites because we get sad at what we see because women are just like men,should be treated with ultimate respect.
    I hope that I changed the way you look at Muslims now even if I changed it only 1% but believe me,we treat women as you and repect thm more than you do.

    Thank you.

    • thefrollickingmole Says:

      Then you shouldnt mind if I ask you about one particular piece of your religion that concerns me.

      The treatment of converts from Isalm to any other faith. In most Muslim majority countries it is actually against the law, with civil punishment, including imprisonment for doing so. In addition the convert almost always claims to be under threat/living in fear of assault or death from his/her Muslim neighbours.

      Heres an Egyptian case.

      http://www.compassdirect.org/english/country/egypt/16129/

      As for the American sex sites. Dont mistake what is legal with what is moraly or religously sanctioned.

    • Imal persaid Says:

      Fist of all your whole peice is one big contradiction u tell us not to believe everything but everything you said is based on thing you read about us. And second of all these sights you sleek of are an act of freedom, these women enjoy this if they didn’t they wouldn’t do it. I know it’s messed up but it’s true ther are some weird people out their. But our way of life in our country is not at all based on religion and that is where the misunderstanding comes in we don’t hate your religion, we just don’t believe in religion any religion we believe in fact/ science.

      It was not my intentions to afend u and I think anyone can and should believe in anything they choose to. But when it sparks hate and war then people should really second guess their beleifs

  43. I am sad Says:

    I actually never heard of this case before,I will invistigate in it and ask more knowledgable adults than me about the countries laws and respond to you tomorrow.But Islam is not against anyone who wants to convert to christianty and it doesn’t force anyone to commit to Islam and become Muslim.Read the Quran and if you are convinced with what it says then you are free to join Islam and if not,then no one can force you to join it.As for American sex sites,I don’t know what you mean by legal and not legal,to me they only present women in a bad way and that all they are suitable In is having great body and pleasure men.I know that sex is legal in many European countries like Germany because it is considered part of tourism income but I also know that IT IS illegal in christianty and Bible and don’t try to convince me otherwise.Bibles that are spread all over the world right now are not correct and not the correct version.The old right one prevents Christians from having sex before marriage and is considered a great sin.Adultery or “Zina” is a major sin in christianty and in Egypt we never see any Christians having sex before marriage and it is 99.9% normal to be virgin before marriage,in fact it is a must and the other 0.01 percent are considered to have commuted a great sin.do you know that 95% of Egyptians are religious?and do you know that only 5% of Americans are true Christians that know the OLD bible well?I am bot trying to begin a war here,I am just trying to show you that we are not at all bad as the Internet presents us and there are many foreigners that I know became Muslims after reading the Quran.
    I will try answering your question tomorrow when I gather moreinformations.

    • Carpe Jugulum Says:

      “But Islam is not against anyone who wants to convert to christianty and it doesn’t force anyone to commit to Islam and become Muslim”

      So what you’re saying is that death for apostacy is a myth, are you deluded or just a fucking liar?

  44. I am sad Says:

    Do you have to be rude?I asked about it and it is DEFINETLY a myth,as I previously said Islam is not against anyone who wants to change his religeon and No country rules forbid this except for Saudi Arabia,which as I said before is a special case.As for that case,there is a reason for his trial that the site didn’t show but our local newspaper mentioned.There is a law against anyone who converts from Islam to christianty and join a group to advice people to be Christians.That is the exact same situation of that man,he joined a group to make Muslims become Christians,and so he broke the law.he is free to take any religion but he can’t advertise it.

    • Carpe Jugulum Says:

      “he is free to take any religion but he can’t advertise it.”

      Do you even read the shit you type before posting? I’ve revised my position on you – you’re delusional wankstain and a fucking liar.

    • bingbing Says:

      And have you considered that by denouncing Jews, you are being rude, too?

  45. I am sad Says:

    Why are you so aggresive?can’t you handle a clean debat?Maybe I wasn’t clear,as I said anyone who wants to convert from Islam to any other religion IS FREE to do so with no constrains BUT he or she can’t join a group or a party to advertise for this religion and advice Muslims to also convert.The only country that is against this is Saudi Arabia and anyone who do so in it,will be instantly sentenced to death.
    As for Jewish,I apologize for that,I tried to edit my post but there is no option.I meant to say israelians and what they do to palistenians right now.

    • bingbing Says:

      As for Jewish,I apologize for that,I tried to edit my post but there is no option.I meant to say israelians and what they do to palistenians right now.

      Many of the Palestinians aren’t that wonderful. That children’s TV show, first popularised with the Mickey Mouse-like Farfour, was particularly despicable. The show encouraged children to become martyrs and kill the “infidel Jews”. Last time I checked, Israeli kids aren’t being encouraged on kids’ programs to go out and kill Palestinians. And it wasn’t Israel lobbing rockets over the border every single day since 1967.

      Can you accept that Israel has a right to exist?

    • bingbing Says:

      PS

      I am sad. First up, I want to thank you for taking the time to post and share your thoughts here.

      And it is true that the natives at Tizona’s can become hostile at times. It’s just that we’ve dealt with kind of stuff before.

      Now, your first coment had me until about half-way through upon when you denounced Jews. Your later correction substituting “Jews” with “Israel” really didn’t help, either.

      Here’s a hint. The views of moderate Muslims would be far better considered if you would stop banging on about Israel. Get over it. Israel is there to stay, and whilst they certainly are no angels, critisising them will win you no favours here.

      Let them be. Israelis aren’t the one’s committing on average 4 to 5 terrorist acts per day since 9/11.

      Now you may wish to dispute that. However, such arguments will not curry favour here.

      Sure, anti-Zionist rhetoric may win you friends among left-wingers in Western society, but it will not on this page.

      It is fair to say that the editors here (of which I am one) and the regular commenters regard the Left as an equally potent threat against the survival and prosperity of the West.

      I would like nothing more than for you to soften Angus’ heart towards Islam, and much of what you said might have come close.

      But until you can learn to accept Israel, warts and all, then the rest of your argument is lost.

      Please consider this. Is forgiveness something that’s advocated in the Koran?

      Surely it is, since Jesus is revered by you guys, too.

      Personally, modern-day Islam reminds me of Christianity in the Middle Ages. Persecutions, killings, torture…

      The advantage Islam has is that a model exists right now (Western civilisation) for Islam – and in particular radical Islam – to leap frog past a few hundred years of continued nastiness… if you so decide to do so.

      Think of like a game of snakes and ladders. A ladder has been offered to you, yet you continually choose the snake.

      It doesn’t have to be this way.

  46. I am sad Says:

    How do you want me to accept israelians????56 years of killing and torturing palestenians and the world is silent and America the most powerful nation in the world is watching like it was some kind of a comedy movie.if you read history and read Quran and Islamic history sine prophit Mohamed,you will no who are israelians and particulary Jewish and how many wars they were involved in with Muslims and the result were always their loss and defeat.Quran predicted of this before it happened and if you read it fully you will know what I mean and it also mentioned this time when all Arab leaders are weak against the cruelty of Israel and the unspoken America.But beleive me,palistenians will win this war and israelians will get nothing and once again we will become powerful.you want to talk about middle and dark ages?Muslim Arab scientists are the one who pulled western culture out of this doomed era and have all the credit for the knowledge you have now.do you know that what einstian discovered and all his theoires were first discovered by Ibn Batut and Ibn Khaldon(Al hazen) many hundreds years before him?I bet you fdidnt know that because no one in the west want to admit that,not even historical sites on the Internet.there is alot of things that you don’t know about Arabs and Quran and what you read now is all misinformations to make us look the bad guys here.I am not trying to make friends here,I stumbled across this site in google search and I had to comment at all the wrong informations that you guys discuss about us Arab and Muslims.

    • Carpe Jugulum Says:

      Lets play question time from Yashiko Sagamori shall we;

      If you are so sure that “Palestine, the country, goes back through most of recorded history”, I expect you to be able to answer a few basic questions about that country of Palestine:

      When was it founded and by whom?

      What were its borders?

      What was its capital?

      What were its major cities?

      What constituted the basis of its economy?

      What was its form of government?

      Can you name at least one Palestinian leader before Arafat?

      Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation?

      What was the language of the country of Palestine?

      What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine?

      What was the name of its currency? Choose any date in history and tell what was the approximate exchange rate of the Palestinian monetary unit against the US dollar, German mark, GB pound, Japanese yen, or Chinese yuan on that date.

      And, finally, since there is no such country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur?

      If you are lamenting the “low sinking” of a “once proud” nation. Please tell me, when exactly was that “nation” proud and what was it so proud of?

      And here is the least sarcastic question of all: If the people you mistakenly call “Palestinians” are anything but generic Arabs collected from all over — or thrown out of — the Arab world, if they really have a genuine ethnic identity that gives them right for self-determination, why did they never try to become independent until Arabs suffered their devastating defeat in the Six Day War?

      Have fun chuckles

    • Carpe Jugulum Says:

      If you raise the “Israel Question” this is what i’ll give you every time.

      As for “wrong informations” dude look at your theology and the next time you stone a woman to death, ask yourself, is this the religion of peace or just an oppressive death cult, ask yourself is sending a child off to be a bride for a middle aged man a wise thing or is it advocating paedophilia, ask yourself is female genital mutilation an acceptable practice, and don’t give me that shit that it is a cultural thing. if anyone says crap like that it’s a bloke justifying their viewpoint.

      As for Arabs, well my older brother worked in Kuwait for 11 years and quite frankly he, (and by default, I) think arabs are worthless bits of shit. You are a lazy people, shiftless, with the work ethic of a dunny scrubber, you harrass western women and their children when they are out shopping, and the day my oldest brother rode his Harley across 4 lanes of traffic to beat the shit out of you towel headed shitbags is a day of joy in the Jugulum house.

      Face facts arsebucket, Bing has been nice to you, i don’t do nice to you, because i’ve seen your handiwork first hand in Gulf 1, you and your ilk may feel free to stand in my crosshairs beacause i don’t do dhimmi, your theology advocates lies and liars, i give your shrill squeaking no credence.

      Arabs……..a buch of tribal retards who have more concern with goat buggering than getting past the 14th century. Wrong infortmation………………………..bite me bitch.

      Thank you and i appreciate your feedback………….show me what you’ve got.

  47. I am sad Says:

    I never seen a site that is supposed to contain hot debate and not a single sign of moderations,are there no moderators here mr.editor?Anyway,I read all your questions and clearly I can deduct from them that you are a shalow man with no depth thinking.you clearly don’t know anything about palestin or it’s history and you also know nothing about islam history or you know anything about the dark ages,where the western society was so ignorant,so uneducated that you were no better than people at Angola.Moreover,you Americans have no history or civilization,you were a piece of garbage and thirds from all over Europe and were thrown on a contenintal called America.No country in the world have history and civilization except:Egypt,Greece,China and later on Iraq and India.try to convince yourself that you are an American and you are above all other nation,when you are infact one of the most piece of shit civilization ever known to mankind history,in fact you have no history.
    As for Kuwait,you are again simply generalizing.My father works in Kuwait(I am an Egyptian) and I went to Kuwait many times and I can assure you that kuwaitians are lazy ass rich who know nothing about work or even want to work.They are rich because of petrol and most of them are decented from very wealthy families so they don’t need to work.My father also complains about the same things your brother complain off and he is not happy working with them.They harass western women bcause they have nothing else to do.They are rich,don’t work and spoiled and spend most of the times in malls(Marina mall,360,Avenues….).why don’t you come to other countries like Egypt and you will see how lazy you and your brother work.people here are poor(40%) but when it comes to work,fuck the money,the most important thing is doing the job right.Do you know that Egyptians score the highest scores in ALL subjects of IGCSE(international system and very difficult if compared with the easy American SAT)?And do you know that Iranians and pakestanians score the best marks in the world when it comes to Physics and Maths?we still have the knowledge and edge over the western culture and America is shaking right now because they know what Iran is capable of and they know the Consequences will be defestating if Israel or America attacked it or Syria.Dude,know your facts right and I strongly advice a person in your shalow mind state to read history and country’s culture before entering any debat because you make yourself like a 9 year old in terms of knowledge and the way if thinking.
    Thanks

    • chris Says:

      and as a 9 year old, his profit finds you sexy

  48. Arse Bandit Says:

    Hey I am sad, I’ve seen a lot of scandals nowadays from Dubai or UAE and also in Saudi.. Those women are really hot and horny.. Of course they are muslim women.. :D

  49. I am sad Says:

    ^^lol,good for you.I went to Dubai,it is like las Vegas,a doomed city that only contains hookers and rich people with No morals or anything.This is all because of all the foreigners and westerns that live in it,so ofcourse they transformed it to a sex place.only 5% are emiratee and the rest are foreigners from all over the world.

  50. Arse Bandit Says:

    That’s better than having a country with people fighting each other and killing each other because of religion and cultural differences. I’d rather live in such place like UAE rather than live in a place like Palestine where almost everyday someone blew himself/herself off in the street just to be with Allah and the 70 virgins.. lol!

  51. I am sad Says:

    And who’s fault for all this killing and war?isn’t it israel and the so weak Obama that did nothing since his presidency?American actually called him”The president of nothing” and most of them are dissapointed with his efforts.He has nice charisma and knows how to talk and convince people very well but we saw nothing from him.
    ‘Al gehad’ is a very special thing in Islam and recquired alot of courage and any Muslim dreams of doing it as he will go to heaven and have the 70 virgins that you are making sarcasm of.laugh now in your laugh and make fun of Quran and Muslim and our Allah and then you will cry with blood when you die and the punishment day comes.

    Thanks for the conservations I made here,it is really nice site but need some moderation.
    We clearly won’t agree on anything here but I enjoyed the debat.

  52. 1.6 Says:

    We are the moderators, there was no need for moderating this topic, we live in a ‘free’ country. We don’t want thought police. If you’re not happy here I ask you kindly not to post but remember this, we live in a free country, free speech. Does yours?

  53. Vulture Says:

    I find it most amusing that the monosyllabic Jew-baiting goat-humper is offended at the lack of moderation.

    Oops. Let me step back and start over.

    Part of the concept of energetic debate is “energy”. In theory, moderation exists to prevent debate from turning into ad homimem attacks. But ad hominem attacks are fun! I know I certainly enjoy them! And they’re particularly fun when you’re trying to reason with someone too obtuse to be reached in any other way.

    The bottom line, “I am sad”, is this: don’t go in the pool if yer skerd of the sharks.

  54. I am sad Says:

    I am not scared of the sharks,this is a stupid thing to say.Every reputable forum or a news site have some kind of moderation for ad hominem or personal asults and the action is bann the attacker from the site or don’t publish his posts”we live in a free country” is not correct mr moderator,”we live in a corrupted country and community” is much better and accurate.
    As I said,you won’t agree with what Muslim say and you have your weird believes and you most of you are not religuios and don’t believe in God.
    Enjoy your life as long as you can,because at the end when you die,you will wish and beg you have just listened to what we had to say about Islam.

    Thank you,and this will be my last post here.

    • Vulture Says:

      See? Now you’ve gone and said something stupid. I’m not religious – because I’m a Christian, saved by Grace, not through any action or righteousness of my own. Do I believe in God? You bet your ass I do!

      But you Islamics and other fundamentalists (putting the “mental” in “fundamental”) think that by doing, doing, doing you’re “earning” heaven. It creates a hubris and a haughtiness in the “religious” person that is absolutely NOT MERITED. “For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God”. None of us is righteous – not one!

      But you would kill me, because I don’t “practice righteousness”. Your sick, twisted “religion” is NOT Godly, not in any way, shape, or form. It’s a sick, macabre joke, and nothing more.

      But, hey. You enjoy your twisted 5-prayers-every-day-or-die bullshit religion. And I’ll enjoy having a life.

    • Carpe Jugulum Says:

      Bugger…..curse you working for a living, i’ve missed this;

      Anyhoo sadarse i see you can’t answer the questions i posted (funny about that, most pro-palis or talitubbies can’t, a little historical obfuscation, but thats about it).

      By Forums & news sites you mean those that let you peddle your viewpoint and that of your apologists, without a counterpoint because you can cry racist or some such drivel, (remember if you can convert to it it’s not a race).

      If you’re offended….meh…….get over yourself, your death cult and a prophet who deflowered a 9 year old………do come visit again, i miss seeing what the shallow end of the gene pool is up to.

      As Yoda would say…Who’s your Jedi, Who’s your Jedi……beotch

  55. bingbing Says:

    Challenge:

    I am sad vs et. al. to comment about the good in each other and their cultures.

    et. al. has to write something positive about Muslims and specifically Arabs.

    “I am sad” has to write something good about the West and about Israel.

  56. Challenge issued « The Tizona Group Says:

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  57. I am sad Says:

    Ok,I can do this and go with this chalenge And write about what I like about westerns BUT I will not write anything positive about Israel or mention it.It is like asking me to write what I like about the person who raped my sister.To avoid any conflict,I will stay away and refrain myself from saying anything about Israel.
    Should I comment here?

    • bingbing Says:

      Fire away.

      How about Israel’s women soldiers? Deep down you know they’re hot.

  58. I am sad Says:

    EDIT:I saw the chalenge link,I will comment there.

  59. Arse Bandit Says:

    I am sad… how about Iraq’s Women Soldier… Deep down you know they smell something right ?

    I think its awful.. lol!

    Where’s the link so I can comment positive about Islam in there ? Cheers!

    Carpe, do you still play with your toy ?

  60. person Says:

    I have been reading the previous posts; one thing that astonishes me is that when people talk about the sensitive topic of ‘religion’ they always refer to the actions of people who CLAIM to follow these religions .. the MUSLIM terrorists .. the JEWISH government of Israel.

    In this case, we tend to waste our time supporting or arguing against the actions of people who we have NEVER met nor do we know their beliefs or the extent to which they practice their CLAIMED religion.

    Whether we like it or not, POLITICS has a lot to play in what the media is portraying to us today. If we don’t accept the fact that politics has a role to play in the media then we are kidding ourselves.

    Any religious dialogue must have conditions in place ;
    1- Always refer to the main sources of the religion (the original texts)
    2- Opinions and arguments must be logical and supported with original religious texts
    3- One must be willing to listen and consider the other ; otherwise don’t bother.

    I am a Muslim Australian. Islam is my faith but Australia is my place of birth and nation which I am loyal to. I found this site by coincidence and want to correct some statements made earlier. However, I will only post if the conditions of dialogue are met.

    I will start by defining a religion; a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects. Just because I claim to be of a certain religion it doesn’t make me one of them. Similarly, not everybody who wears an army or police uniform follows the law. Not every politician enters government to help the country and not every kid who tells their parents that they are going over to a friends house end up going there.

    What I am trying to point out is that we cannot say that the army is corrupt just because a handful of its soldiers commit treason or that all politicians use their status for personal gains just because a few of them have. Similarly, not all Muslims are terrorists.

  61. Apu from Kwik-E-Mart Says:

    I think what we need is someone with a pair of steel balls and some madness like Adolf Hitler or Darth Vader who can persecute these Muslim fanatics.

    I was surfing the web and saw the pictures of a Muslim protest in London. An example: http://homepage.mac.com/dmhart/iblog/C437552202/E214332711/Media/web.0203islam6.jpg

    “Behead all that insult Islam” reads one of the banners in the link above. So, Prophet Mohammad, war and destruction be upon you, bearer of hate and ignorance, shall you drown in bat shit and may your children and followers get anal raped by Mormons and Jews. You sir, are a sperm load your whore mother should have swallowed back in 630 AD. But instead she let the hippopotamus ejaculate inside her and hence your monstrosity of self was born. Shall you die a thousand times for everyone who kills in your disgusting name and that of the pig Allah. How’s that for an insult? I better hold on to my head now!

    I’m calling on all Christians, Jews, Blacks, Whites, Asians, Hispanics, Scots, Hobbits, Trolls, Elves, Puerto Ricans, Veterinarians, President Obama, Chuck Norris and Obi One Kenobi to unite as free men against this barbarian horde of Muslims.

    Islam is a crime. Let us start the Reconquista of Planet Earth.

    • Mr. T Says:

      Amen brother… Allahu Akbar… Love live the mormons.. Hehehehe.. =D

  62. sonai Says:

    Islam is the worse fucking religion on earth.they are like animal.I think animals are better then muslims.

  63. Mogammad Adams Says:

    Dear Angus.

    This is out of the fold of islam..This which you are mentioning is a practice of the Shia( they are not considered muslim). they are like a cancer in islam and giving us true muslims a bad reputation.

    regards
    M.Adams ( South Africa)

  64. Noor Ahmad Lari Says:

    May Allah bless mercy upon you all.
    1st of all I would like to say to all those who think Islam as an abject & rude religion to Read the Holy Qu’ran & get cleared about your misconceptions & doubts regarding the Holy Faith.
    Friends, It is a timely proved Dictum that First you inquire, observe, study & then put forward the Consequences intercepted by you. Please do not rely upon unreferenced articles, quotes or speeches , search yourself & then arrive at Conclusion.
    May Allah, Most Gracious Most Merciful , bestow his Mercy & reward Uzma Khan Sahiba for struggling against Misconceptions & Pretenses regarding Islam.

    Thanks.

    May Allah guide all of us thru the straight way & forgive our transgressions.
    Amen
    Noor Ahmad Lari

  65. Andy Says:

    i find it funny that my reply couldnt be posted because it was too insulting, yet the other fucking people can insult islam. may allah curse you

  66. a well wisher Says:

    GLAD MAN…..GLAD and LUCKY..I am not a fucking MUSLIM….I am free Bird….born as a Hindu…..
    Thanks to my religion…..

  67. John Lesner Says:

    Hi to all brothers and sisters. I am amazed that you people are judging LAWS of GOD by the acts of people. Come on, if you read all the Godly Books you’ll find what the believers of those books don’t do and try to change the laws of God for their own pleasures or likes or dislikes. Its just the wrong interpretation of God’s Laws just like a lawyer tries to save a thief. The thief is a thief but the law to punish him is not wrong, its just the lawyer’s or the thief’s wrong interpretation. Just like Pope Urban in Clairemont in year 1012 waged a war against Muslims by saying that the people killing Muslims would go in Heaven, or the Al Qaeda or the Mullahs say that killing Christians is justified. This is all bullshit. No religion asks to kill anyone except for those who do wrong to other people, Please try to understand. Its the people NOT the laws which are wrong.

  68. Essien Says:

    fuck islam!

  69. daylightowl Says:

    Read the whole fucking discussion..seriously wtf? I haven’t seen too much of hypocrisy in any religion all over the globe.. LOL muslims say something nice and would do exactly opposite to it. I really feel great I am not muslim. I am free bird

  70. shamsu Says:

    Then u r not going to be satisfied forever because Islam is not going to be destroyed..

  71. Hunter Says:

    Supposedly there is an entire chapter of the Koran dedicated to the Virgin Mary. Really?? Jesus is supposed to be an important prophet. Really?? Yet, by their actions, Moslems do not consider Jesus to be important, only Mohammed. Just what role is Jesus supposed to play in Islam? He’s obviously not very important, only Mohammed is. I have never hear or read about a Moslem talking about Jesus as being a prophet, at least not an important one. The way Moslems treat Christians, it is surprising that Jesus would be mentioned at all in the Koran.

    You would never see a Moslem getting upset if someone painted an unflattering Cartoon about the “prophet” Jesus. No Moslem would get upset if someone took the name of the “prophet” Jesus in vain. So, just what role does Jesus supposedly play in Islam? Can’t be very important.

  72. Imal persaid Says:

    I think everyone should let go of their safety blanket called religion,yes all religion and grow up and start living in reality

  73. aslam Says:

    islam is the best religion. i do not mean to hurt the seniments of other religions, but i love my religion i know it is the only religion that is true. nd dont forget islam is the religion that has the most number of devotees. and if u r a cristian angus des, then u know what, the god u worship is our prophet. ha. for u a prophet is a god but for us god is god. u are worshipping a person allah made hahaha. yes isa the so called jesus is truly lived once, but he is NOT god. and ull meet ur JESUS on the day of judgement . he will te

  74. dan Says:

    Islam, in general, is not the problem. It never has been and never will be. The problem is the lack of education rampant among its followers who are dependent on the translation of their local religious leaders to determine what the Koran says is right and wrong. The problem is, as it has been and continues to be with other religions, with the radical leaders who find pleasure in the endless pain that they bring to others in the name of their god. Don’t get me wrong, I’m far from an Islamic supporter, I just call it as I see it and the way I see it there are just too many stupid people out there who believe anything that their ‘religious’ leaders tell them.

  75. Ahmed Says:

    Wtf !! You are really sick when you called 1.5 billions people with these lies i don’t believe this story i don’t think it can be happened even if that happened Islam Innocent of these acts and those people and try to learn your self don’t judge on Islam through Muslims look at the source because we don’t judge other religions from them we look at the source too

    • Carpe Jugulum Says:

      1. You are full of crap

      2. You belong to a 7th century death cult.

      3. Your death cult treats women like chattels.

      4. Your ‘prophet’ was a paedophile.

      Deal with the truth asshat.


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