This is just crazy-wrong. (updated)

60 Minutes feature tonight: “Forbidden Love.” As the promo reads, “A brother and sister – a father and daughter. Now they’re about to reveal their deepest secret, one they’ve always tried to hide.”

Bloody incest on free-to-air TV during the 7:30-8:30 timeslot, not condemned for the sick, sick thing it is but almost shown as just another “lifestyle choice.”

“Aw, c’mon. Don’t go all moral and righteous on them.” In this age of do-it-yourself, make-it-up-as-you-go-along morality, that’s the message I felt was being pushed. I don’t know how many times phrases like, “People shouldn’t be judgmental, we’re consenting adults and we’re not hurting anyone” came out.

Money quote from the father/grandfather: “I knew it was illegal, of course I knew it was illegal but you know, so what. Then he gives a creepy chuckle.

And yes, the Australian couple have a biological child together, as well as two children from previous partner/s, dutifully smiling for the camera and telling Australia that there is nothing wrong with their Mom sleeping with her Dad – or is that, their Grandpa. Full names and location were given. Gee, school tomorrow should be a real blast for them.

The 60 Minutes transcript will be up here (it’s not up yet just been posted), and here is the story on it from from Read it and weep – for the poor children involved if for no other reason.

UPDATE: Actually, there was something 60 Minutes wasn’t telling us in their eagerness to portray this couple in the best possible light:

A FATHER and daughter who have revealed they are couple and have a child together had another baby who died a few days after birth from a congenital abnormality, court documents show.

Why didn’t 60 Minutes tell us about that death

PETER OVERTON: …. But then they would break the greatest taboo of all – Jenny fell pregnant with their baby. 9-month-old Celeste seems blissfully happy and perfectly healthy. Despite the odds. Children born to close-relative couplings are six times more likely to die at birth, did you consider that?
JOHN DEAVES: The way I look at it, it’s just like if I was married to Jennifer and she was not my biological daughter and we had a child. It’s exactly the same thing. The child is not deformed. It had no mental difficulties. Quite normal, healthy child.

UPDATE #2: More that 60 Minutes didn’t tell us:

An ex-wife of the South Australian man who had a baby with his daughter has rubbished claims the pair had almost no contact for 30 years. Dorothy Deaves told ninemsn John and Jenny Deaves, who have now had two babies together, lived under the same roof when Jenny was a 15-year-old girl.

And there’s this:

Mr Deaves — who was once jailed for armed robbery…

Andrew Bolt asks: Was 60 Minutes just being slack in not checking this story further, or just irresponsible in withholding all the facts?

UPDATE #3: Yes, they were paid for the interview. (The Australian)

16 Responses to “This is just crazy-wrong. (updated)”

  1. Ash Says:

    It’s sick. It’s just fucking sick. Imagine their daughter’s shame in five, ten, twenty years, when she finds out that her father is also her grandfather. Fucking. Sick.

  2. spot_the_dog Says:

    #1 You know, I’ve read arguments from paedophiles that their particular “sexual preference” should be recognised and accepted, that they’re born that way and shouldn’t be discriminated against. Maybe 60 Minutes will give them a platform to push their cause next week.

  3. thefrollickingmole Says:

    Poor bloody kids.

  4. Ash Says:

    Add this to the list of shit that is just fucking sick.

  5. Rebecca H Says:

    Some people simply don’t deserve to be considered human.

  6. 1.618 Says:

    Sounds abit Islamic.

  7. nilk Says:

    I’ll no doubt rant on this later, but I’m happy to volunteer to horsewhip the dad and daughter act out of town.

    As above, while her teenage kids might say it’s no problem now, I’d hate to be in their shoes at school.

    It’s not like they are living in a large, anonymous city – their in bloody country South Australia!

  8. nilk Says:

    Mind you, it only took them 2 weeks to get into the sack, so we should respect that they waited so long.


  9. spot_the_dog Says:

    The scary thing is, her 9 and 14 year old daughters were spawned by some other man or men, so they are not growing up with their bio-father/s. Since having sex with Dad is obviously A-OK in the warped world they’re growing up in, what’s to stop them from getting busy with their estranged father/s a few years down the track?

    Hell, I’m sure sick stuff like this does happen from time to time, but to see it celebrated as some sort of harmless “lifestyle choice” on a mainstream program like 60 Minutes, and to hear people who would call this absolutely sick, preemptively dismissed as some kind of intolerant nutters, is just whacked.

  10. spot_the_dog Says:

    Also, I wonder whether the Baby Bonus they would have been paid for their incestuous spawn could be classified as “proceeds of crime”?

  11. thefrollickingmole Says:

    I will go to hell for this, but heres the musical version.

    From Kevin “bloody” Wilson, dont touch your sister shes mine…

  12. Ash Says:

    #7 The teens aren’t copping it anywhere nearly as bad as the little one is going to. Not only is it sick, but it’s so fucking selfish of them to not consider when they found out she was pregnant, what kind of life they’re going to be subjecting the baby to. Kids are cruel, and as soon as the kids her age find out, it’s going to follow her for the rest of her life.

    The 60 Minutes story will be forgotten in a few years, but all it takes is one Google search…

  13. Ash Says:

    #11 That song will not find you worthy of a punishment. It’s sick and wrong, but it’s fucking funny.

  14. nilk Says:

    Spot, from the transcript: Knowing it was wrong in so many ways John and Jenny walked away from their respective partners and set up home together in South Australia. They brought up Jenny’s two children Samantha and Alex as their own

    They were both still married or at least committed in some way to other people, and she buggered off with her young children in tow.

    If her first child is 14, then that girl would have been 6 or so when the mother shagged her own father.

    The son would have been a toddler.

    This is wrong on so many levels.

  15. Angus Dei Says:

    This is all so typically – amorally – post-modern. What abject cack.

  16. spot_the_dog Says:

    #14 Have a look at the update. This wasn’t their first child together; just their first child that actually lived more than a few days. And they hadn’t been “estranged for 30 years”. Wonder how many other lies will come out now.

    Someone’s sure to contact the bio-father/s of the other children, I suspect we’ll get yet another side of the story.

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