Baghdad flower show

What was that about Operation Iraqi Freedom being a failure, doomed from the start, a mistake?

IRAQ is holding its first-ever flower festival…

The Left has to face it. They were dead wrong.

11 Responses to “Baghdad flower show”

  1. Old Lefty Says:

    “The Left has to face it. They were dead wrong”.

    Oh yeah?

    By Brian Murphy, Associated Press
    Posted: 04/23/2009 09:14:01 PM PDT
    Updated: 04/23/2009 09:14:02 PM PDT

    BAGHDAD — Suicide bomb blasts tore through crowds waiting for food aid in central Baghdad and inside a roadside restaurant filled with Iranian pilgrims Thursday, killing at least 78 people in Iraq’s deadliest day in more than a year.

    • thefrollickingmole Says:

      When you can inform me when the last Communist attack occourred after Franco took over then you can say gotcha!!

      The country has just escaped a brutal dictatorship, with about 1/4 or so of the population losing their positions of privellige. Thats a pretty big pool of dissidents to cause trouble.
      But if your happy to install another strongman rather than a fledgeling democracy (with all its imperfections) just come out and say so.

      You were wrong.
      You still are wrong.
      The Iraqis have a democracy, its up to them to keep it. (and I think they will, Id wager South Africa toppling into anarchy before Iraq at this stage)

    • bingbing Says:

      Arguably there were more Iraqis killed every day during Saddam’s dictatorship. And eight million voters can’t be bad. Twenty million Iraqis living with democracy, freedom and with the opportunities only a free market can give.

      So what’s your point, old lefty? That Iraq lacking the above-mentioned qualities was a better place? Hmm.

    • Angus Dei Says:

      Er, residual Nazi violence flared up in Germany until about 1950. Check back with me in three years or so, leftard.

    • bingbing Says:

      Heck, there’s still a bit of residual Nazi violence in Germany… and elsewhere. They’re called skinheads. But leftards will never understand points such as this.

      It’s as if they want to sit down and chat with evil, without preconditions, as if trying to reason with it, rather than trying to fight it.

      And if the bloke is old such as his nickname suggests… and is still a lefty… well, I think we all understand.

      PS No sleight on your “follicly-challenged” head, Gus. Heheh. Mine’s been shaved (6mm now 9mm) since January 21, too. You watch. Some retard will probably accuse us Bolt moderators…

    • bingbing Says:

      PPS Notice how lefties, when it comes to Iraq, so often bring up suicide bombings to try and prove the Right wrong. It’s as if they’re happy these things occur just so that they can prove their point… which in my book boils down to accept evil, don’t fight it.

  2. bingbing Says:

    You know what, old lefty? How old are you? Because it’s tragic if you are and still haven’t figured it out yet.

    But I’m not attacking you, personally. You’re most likely a good bloke. I just don’t get why you and your ilk is so against what happened in Iraq.

  3. Old Lefty Says:

    Unlike some, in the GOP, I was never a fan of Saddam Hussein, but as dictators go, he was unremarkable. He certainly fell far short of the standard set by Hitler or Stalin, or even Mao. I just didn’t see the need to invade Iraq. He was no great threat to either the West, or to Israel. Nor did he give succour to Islamic terrorists.
    I’m sorry you think I’m tragic, bingbing. You’re probably a good bloke too. We just march to different drums.

    • bingbing Says:

      I’m guessing a lot of lefties think why Iraq when there’s so many dictators out there the US hasn’t bothered with and/or even worked with (including Saddam, of course). And that’s a fair point, in a sense.

      My guess is Bush was looking at a bigger picture. By giving democracy and freedom a toehold in an Arab nation, Bush was trying to set the ball rolling in the Middle East. Not so much that things change today but as they’ll hopefully be in the middle east in 100 years or so. i.e. help people live freely and get rich and they’ll be less inclined to want to blow themselves and us richy riches up.

      Did he try to hard? Only time will tell but I think he had the right idea. It’s just a shame so many people who live free and democratically didn’t share this vision, this idea that freedom can overpower tyranny and everyone ends up better off in the long run.

      And I think, for what it’s worth, Iraq will end up a much better place that what it was. But it’s not just about Iraq. It’s about slowly changing that whole region so they become like us. And that’s not merely an American thing, or in the broader sense, a Western thing. It’s a human thing. I just think freedom et. al. is a really cool idea and if there’s even a faint chance of spreading it, then we should.

      Bush was right doing what he did, and although it’s been really hard, I think Iraq is starting to bear fruit… or flowers as it were. Bush was right about this being a clash of civilisations, and was right placing so much importance on it. After all, presidents should be big picture people. It was never just about Iraq. It was about the entire fucking human race and how it will be living after we’re all dead.

      Afghanistan is proving to be harder and that’s a shame since in my book, it doesn’t matter what religion or race you are. I just think deep down, every human being wants what we’ve got and the people fighting us, well, don’t know what they don’t know.

  4. Old Lefty Says:

    “I just think freedom et. al. is a really cool idea and if there’s even a faint chance of spreading it, then we should”

    Amen to that.
    It’s just that I have a really bad feeling about the future of Iraq, when the Americans leave.
    It is now a Shiite Nation and is likely to join Iran in an axis of opposition against Israel.

    • bingbing Says:

      Is the glass half full or half empty? More on that here. Iraq is part of a very big game (heheh) which the Right is imploring the Left to understand.

      By the way, the Yanks won’t leave.

      H/T Beef.

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