What would China do?

If you remember the post a few days back showing Al Gore being confronted in a bookstore, you may remember the ‘confrontee’ screaming out that the COP15 climate change crap has, rather than having much to do about the environment, and not just on Obama’s own admission, a security issue, but also rather a lot to do about eugenics, that favourite play toy of the Left. And sure, we’ve already heard about eco-ratbags suggesting governments ‘put something in the water’.

Well, Canada’s Financial Post, in an editorial no less, has made their stand… for a global one-child policy.

A planetary law, such as China’s one-child policy, is the only way to reverse the disastrous global birthrate currently, which is one million births every four days.

Interesting since it ain’t the rich countries having that much of a problem with exploding populations. In fact, two of the richest nations on the planet, Japan and Germany are actually experiencing negative population growth.  It’s the poor countries that are much more likely to have huge population growth. Look at that list in the link above. Take the top 30. It’s only poor and/or Muslim countries experiencing growth of about 2.5 or higher.

The FP’s stance is idiotic at best, and down right evil at worst. And how the hell would you police such a policy except in the developed world? That’d be a world which isn’t having a problem with exploding populations – no pun intended re countries experiencing problems re suicide bombers…

But the FP is trying to do what China would do, and is taking China’s lead.

COPENHAGEN: Population and climate change are intertwined but the population issue has remained a blind spot when countries discuss ways to mitigate climate change and slow down global warming, according to Zhao Baige, vice-minister of National Population and Family Planning Commission of China (NPFPC) .

“Dealing with climate change is not simply an issue of CO2 emission reduction but a comprehensive challenge involving political, economic, social, cultural and ecological issues, and the population concern fits right into the picture,” said Zhao, who is a member of the Chinese government delegation.

So we have a bunch of lefties taking the lead off a bunch of Commies? Gee, what could go wrong with that in a free, democratic society?

Tim Wilson in Copenhagen

It’s up to 33, 000 delegates. NGOs outnumber government reps (even with KRudd’s help) 2:1. China and India (go figure) are most unhappy with a leaked draft text.

As the Conference continues a walkout appears more and more likely. If flexibility isn’t adopted by developed countries toward the obligations on developing countries it is likely they will start decrying eco-imperialism and a lot of people will have emitted a lot of carbon by flying a long way for nothing.

“If the event weren’t such a farce, it’d almost be funny.”

Read the whole enchilada. Meanwhile, Tim is blogging over at the ABC.

Copenhagen: Climate Sense Conference

This is one of the first conferences of the COP15 junket summit, and it’s prime objective will be urging UN members (and everyone else there) to have open minds about this debate. Although Climategate has essentially proven that climate scientists, politicians, journalists, and the UN don’t have an open mind about climate change and it’s many causes, well, at least this Climate Sense Conference is taking place at all. It begins at 8pm tonight, Tizona time (same as Sydney and Melbourne) and runs until 2am Tizona time. It will continue at 8pm Tizona time on Wednesday and wrap up at 1am, er, Tizona time.

*Note: They mixed up the date on that link. It should read Tuesday, December 8, not Tuesday, December 7.

It’s brought to you by this mob, the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, and that link has lots of great additional stuff related to Christopher Monckton, Climategate, and Copenhagen et. al..

In case you missed it yesterday, Lord Monckton, along with Professor Fred Singer, and Professor Ian Plimer, will be speaking at that conference.

Also, in case you missed this over at Bolt’s, Tim Wilson of Sustainable Development is actually over in Copenhagen and will be blogging about it. Might be a good place to go to get up-to-the-minute info.

UPDATE

Better late than never. From December 1, MIT’s professor of meteorology, Dr. Richard Lindzen, argues that the science isn’t settled in the following summary…

Is there a reason to be alarmed by the prospect of global warming? Consider that the measurement used, the globally averaged temperature anomaly (GATA), is always changing. Sometimes it goes up, sometimes down, and occasionally—such as for the last dozen years or so—it does little that can be discerned.

Claims that climate change is accelerating are bizarre. There is general support for the assertion that GATA has increased about 1.5 degrees Fahrenheit since the middle of the 19th century. The quality of the data is poor, though, and because the changes are small, it is easy to nudge such data a few tenths of a degree in any direction. Several of the emails from the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit (CRU) that have caused such a public ruckus dealt with how to do this so as to maximize apparent changes.

Copenhagen schedule

A silver lining…

On Tuesday and Wednesday, Monckton, Fred Singer, and Ian Plimer will be speaking. Bad news is that they’re speaking right at the beginning and could well be forgotten by the end. Good news is that nothing much is likely to come out of this, with no actual agreements until June next year or even until 2011.

Let’s hope “our boys” get a fair hearing and their message gets through over, say, Desmond Tutu’s call for cash.

Schedule.

And with trepidation, a link to an article quoting Lord Monckton. Do read the whole enchilada, but since the following has been largely passed over, here’s an excerpt reminding us what this AGW crock means for our food.

Speaking about replacing one third of agricultural land which grows food to be used for growing bio-fuels instead, Christopher Monckton reminded that it has led to double food price surge over just one year.

“If we have to pay twice as much for our food – it’s inconvenient. If you are in a poor country – that difference of a 100% in the price of your food is the difference between life and death,” he warns.

More.

UPDATE

In related news, have you heard about the steel cages being set up for any protesters who are arrested?

Powerline asks: What do they think we are, anarchists?

Will Lord Monckton throw Molotov cocktails, or Pat Michaels smash bank windows?

Fruit of the poison tree

Good take on Climategate and Copenhagen from a blogger called naturalfake…

There’s a legal concept known as “fruit of the poison tree”. Basically, it states that any evidence or conclusions derived from improper or illegal techniques are inadmissible in court.

In the world of science, “fruit of the poison tree” would be any research that did not follow the well-established methods of scientific proof. Methods which include maintaining the integrity of observed, raw data. The reproducibility of results. Open availability of data for independent review and confirmation. Accurate prediction of future data by any model or theory derived from that data. At a minimum any theoretical model should completely and accurately predict past data points and phenomena.

Read on.

Found over at Blair’s lair.

UPDATE

No… Don’t click the Tizona banner, don’t click the next comment off to the side, click (er, right click!) the “read on” link. It just gets better and better. It’s like watching an autopsy on the (what should be at least) dead body that is man (Mann) made climate change.